The renovation bug bit the mother-and-daughter team of Karen Laine and Mina Starsiak in 2007, when the two updated a home Starsiak purchased just after college.
Laine and Starsiak poured six months and about $160,000 into the house, which was built in the early 1920s.
When they finished the home, the duo moved onto a second, then a third, selling each as they went.
At that point Starsiak told her mother, "I think we have a business."
Mother and daughter did start a business -- Two Chicks and a Hammer, now owned by Starsiak -- and in 2016 became TV personalities on the "Good Bones" show on HGTV, flipping abandoned homes in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Laine and Starsiak will appear at the The Columbus Dispatch Fall Home & Garden Show at 3 p.m. Sunday, Sept. 8, on the Simple Bath/Simple Kitchen Home Stage at the Ohio Expo Center Bricker Building, 717 E. 17th Ave., Columbus. The three-day event begins Friday, Sept. 6, and runs 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day.
The event also will feature more than 180 home-improvement companies for a myriad of renovation needs, from room additions to kitchen, bath and basement remodels.
Starsiak described her and her mother's first renovation as a "comedy of errors." She had just graduated from Indiana University and was feeling a little aimless.
"I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do," she said.
To avoid a desk job, Starsiak bought a house in a transitional neighborhood in Indianapolis. She said she didn't have any money, so she and her mom did the work together.
"It was a really crappy house," she said.
The neighborhood as well lent itself to a considerable amount of entertainment. For example, a SWAT raid took place one day when the two were working on the home.
Early on, Starsiak said, they incorporated into their business model the goal of renovating not only homes but communities, working on multiple homes on a block.
The renovations that Starsiak and her mother complete for "Good Bones" typically take from four to seven months. Most of the homes are built between 1890 and 1920, although many of the structures have lost whatever historical character they started out with, Starsiak said.
"Every time we finish a house, we love that house," Laine said.
They then move onto the next house and feel the same way upon its completion, she said.
The two have renovated about 90 homes.
Although mother and daughter work as a team, the two actually have different design styles. Starsiak's runs much more traditional to Laine's eclectic taste. And since the properties are being remodeled to be resold, Laine said she's usually the one watering down her style to appeal to a larger audience.
Not everyone, Laine said, likes sea-green tile.
What people do like, it turns out, are kitchens and bathrooms -- those are the big selling points within a house, the rooms where you "wow" people and pull them in, Starsiak said.
When people are renovating their own homes, Laine said, the first question to ask is whether they are remodeling it for themselves or reselling it after the project is completed.
"Maybe purple tile is going to limit your buyer pool," Laine said.
Laine also suggested having a reserve budget of time, money and patience -- an extra 20%.
Contractors, she said, are the most optimistic people in the world. Their predictions should be seen as a minimum rather than a maximum, she said.
People also should consider whether they want to live in the home as it is being worked on, she said.
There comes a point in the process, Laine said, when a home's energy changes. It's usually when new drywall is installing, seemingly giving the house a new life, she said.
"That's my favorite -- when you can feel the house is happy again," she said.